Live and memory
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Live vs memory
English often says how you know a claim: I see it, I saw it. Ageben keeps the ordinary verb and adds a /th/ stance word for that, called an evidential. It names the channel the claim reached you through. Two channels are enough for ordinary talk about a scene in your senses: sensing it now, or remembering that you sensed it.
Verbs have no past or future form. These two channels place the event in time because of how you know it: LIVE means the scene is in your senses as you speak, and MEMORY means you remember sensing it (so it is past).
zazozon thugem vowurol.z-Azozon | th-LIVE | v-walk
"Azozon is walking, I can see it."
zazozon thevum vowurol.z-Azozon | th-MEMORY | v-walk
"Azozon walked, I remember it."
For could be with nothing behind it, use: MAY.
| Ageben | Use | English | Same root as | Cue |
|---|---|---|---|---|
thugem | LIVE: firsthand, sensed now | live / from the scene | ugel attest | 👁️🗨️: sensing-and-saying while it is in view, in earshot, or on your skin |
thevum | MEMORY: firsthand, remembered | from memory | evul fishing | 🎣: you pull something back |
LIVE covers every sense, not only sight: a sound in earshot, cold on your skin, an ache in your knee. MEMORY is the same senses, remembered. A screen or a recording extends your senses, so footage is LIVE while you watch it and MEMORY once you have watched it, with the device as the source.
Compare with: the act of seeing is the ordinary verb vayebel; LIVE only says how you know the claim.
English I see it and I saw it both report watching; they differ in when you watched. LIVE thugem is for a scene still in your senses as you speak. MEMORY thevum is for a scene you remember sensing, so the event is past. Do not put both on one claim. English I witnessed it is MEMORY, not LIVE. (cue: memory is fishing: you pull the episode back, and it may not be what you hoped, the way a line can come up with a boot)
zazozon thevum vayebel dunobal.z-Azozon | th-MEMORY | v-see | d-boot
"Azozon saw a boot, as I remember it."
Footage works the same way. While you watch, it is LIVE with the device as the source; once you have watched it, it is MEMORY, because your memory of the footage can slip just as a memory of the scene can.
zazozon thevum blugewel vowurol.z-Azozon | [th-MEMORY | bl-camera] | v-walk
"Azozon walked, as I remember from the camera."
| Ageben | Use | English | Same root as | Cue |
|---|---|---|---|---|
thugem | concurrent observation, by any sense | live / from the scene | ugel attest | 👁️🗨️: sensing-and-saying while it is in view |
thevum | reconstructive / recalled observation | I remember / from memory | evul fishing | 🎣: retrieval from the water |
Practice
Short drills for Beginner. Try each item before opening Show answer.
Setting: a lookout
New words:
| English | Ageben | Cue |
|---|---|---|
| LIVE | thugem | 👁️🗨️ from attest: seen at the scene |
| MEMORY | thevum | 🎣 from fishing: pulled up from memory |
Review:
| English | Ageben |
|---|---|
| Azozon | azozon |
| Alazun | alazun |
| Ahelan | ahelan |
| camera | ugewel |
| departure | vudurul |
| see | vayebel |
| sing | vozuyel |
English → Ageben
1. I can see that Alazun is leaving.
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zalazun thugem vudurul.
z-Alazun | th-LIVE | v-departure
2. I remember that Alazun sang.
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zalazun thevum vozuyel.
z-Alazun | th-MEMORY | v-sing
3. I can see that Azozon is leaving.
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zazozon thugem vudurul.
z-Azozon | th-LIVE | v-departure
Ageben → English
1. zalazun thevum blugewel vozuyel.
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z-Alazun | [th-MEMORY | bl-camera] | v-sing
Alazun sang, as I remember from the camera.
2. zahelan thugem vayebel dugewel.
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z-Ahelan | th-LIVE | v-see | d-camera
Ahelan sees a camera, I can see it.
3. zazozon thevum vudurul.
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z-Azozon | th-MEMORY | v-departure
Azozon left, I remember it.
Fix it
1. I remember that Alazun sang. zalazun thugem vozuyel.
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zalazun thevum vozuyel.
z-Alazun | th-MEMORY | v-sing
A remembered scene is MEMORY; LIVE is only while it is in your senses.
What changes
1. zalazun thugem vudurul. / zalazun thevum vudurul.
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z-Alazun | th-LIVE | v-departure
z-Alazun | th-MEMORY | v-departure
LIVE is the scene in your senses now. MEMORY is a scene you remember sensing.